We remember our baptism by coming alongside those who have been brought low, grieving with those who are in sorrow and weeping for those who should be weeping but cannot.
Forgive me for commenting on an old post. I’m trying to work through Bonhoeffer’s ultimate/penultimate and radicalism/compromise distinction that you bring up in this conversation. I can’t remember if it’s in the same chapter of Ethics that Bonhoeffer argues that incarnation, crucifixion, and resurrection have to be held together or else the reality of Jesus is distorted.
Would it make sense to say that the crucifixion is the threshold between the penultimate and the ultimate? That both the compromise and radical positions won’t “cross” the threshold of crucifixion?
Compromisers neglect the resurrection (they want incarnation without crucifixion).
Radicals neglect the incarnation (they want resurrection without crucifixion).
But what they both share in common is an aversion to the cross.
Do you think that’s part of what Bonhoeffer is getting at with the distinction?
Forgive me for commenting on an old post. I’m trying to work through Bonhoeffer’s ultimate/penultimate and radicalism/compromise distinction that you bring up in this conversation. I can’t remember if it’s in the same chapter of Ethics that Bonhoeffer argues that incarnation, crucifixion, and resurrection have to be held together or else the reality of Jesus is distorted.
Would it make sense to say that the crucifixion is the threshold between the penultimate and the ultimate? That both the compromise and radical positions won’t “cross” the threshold of crucifixion?
Compromisers neglect the resurrection (they want incarnation without crucifixion).
Radicals neglect the incarnation (they want resurrection without crucifixion).
But what they both share in common is an aversion to the cross.
Do you think that’s part of what Bonhoeffer is getting at with the distinction?
Yes, that's exactly what he's after I believe.