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Karen Scheffler's avatar

ahhh this marveling, may it ever be!

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Margaret Douglas's avatar

Loved it. Always uplifting and educational. Thank you both.

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David P Silver's avatar

+Chris, I appreciated your comments around the “higher harmony” that Rahner references. It put me in mind of a poem by Czeslaw Milosz “Love” that I’ve been sitting with:

Love means to learn to look at yourself

The way one looks at distant things

For you are only one thing among many.

And whoever sees that way heals his heart, Without knowing it, from various ills-A bird and a tree say to him: Friend.

Then he wants to use himself and things So that they stand in the glow of ripeness.

It doesn't matter whether he knows what he serves:

Who serves best doesn't always understand.

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Chris EW Green's avatar

thanks for this poem — I love Milosz

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Katie Andraski's avatar

What a wonderful listen. There is so much grace here. I very much appreciate what you and David said about empire. I find preachers talking about politics or cultural narratives dismaying. Politics/cultural narrative are the least interesting thing about a person. You seem to have refrained and I find it wonderful to listen to David and your take on faith.

As you talked about Sarah and Hagar I thought about God’s care for Hagar…He spoke to her twice and rescued her. But not to Sarah. Here’s a piece I wrote about them: https://open.substack.com/pub/katieandraski/p/sarah-who-loved-a-man?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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