Martin and I discuss the outrageous Jesus of the Gospels, the dismaying plainness of Scripture, the difference between stone-stories and bread-stories, preaching and speechifying, the shift form lyric to epic Christianity, bone memory and our need for oak.
If you’re not already subscribed, make sure you check out Martin’s substack, The House of Beasts and Vines, and if you’ve not heard it, listen to the story of his conversion.
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